In this episode we spend some time dipping into the Covid Lockdown online fireside Sunderland, England Stake hosted with my favourite kosher LDS apologist, historian Patrick Mason, as a contrast to the approach of Brad Wilcox and other General Authorities and apologists like him. Patrick talked a lot of sense, addressing directly the trust-threatening issues that drive people out of the LDS Church, and he only told one massive lie. In the world of kosher LDS apologists, this is absolutely as good as it gets! We also hear directly from the FBI about what they think of the particular vulnerability naively trusting Mormons have to the rampant affinity fraud in their communities, and the LDS Church in the UK that 5 generations of my family have given sweat, blood and tears to build up reaches a genuinely historic landmark of accelerating decline in precisely the place President Nelson has chosen for a new temple.